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	<title>Comments on: Backpeddled But Still Very Wrong</title>
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		<title>By: MrDrunkNightRisin</title>
		<link>http://hellnbak.wordpress.com/2010/05/04/backpeddled-but-still-very-wrong/#comment-249</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 04:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This debate is interesting with the past day&#039;s news of a Google researcher going nuts and posting a Microsoft zero day with four days warning. Oh. Drama. Fight, fight. Cat fight. Or something.

But, as everyone understands on a basic level: the eEye research team was on the right road, with the right intentions, sometimes having to make hard choices. Fact of life in the security business.

Morey is a sales guy. I am not sure where he is coming from on all of this, but he clearly is missing the full picture. In security, you have to consider all the angles. That is what we do.

Liberal, conservative, Democrat, Republican: Whatever. What matters is the bottom line. What is right, what is best... in often morally grey areas.

Nothing is perfect, nothing is ultimately good. And in security you deal with human lives or that which ultimately effects human lives. Sometimes dramatically. You have to choose between the lesser of two evils... because that is all there is. A reality people outside of the industry or peripheral to it can pretend does not exist.

Hate to burst their bubble of goodness there.


There do remain good people at eEye. And I am not making a moral judgment here on Morey. But, the research team is gone.

I worked there. You know what most employers say? What most companies say? &quot;Who is eEye&quot;. Or better, they mispronounce it. &quot;I-I&quot;. Uhm. (Thought, &quot;and you have how much experience in this industry?&quot;)

Such is life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This debate is interesting with the past day&#8217;s news of a Google researcher going nuts and posting a Microsoft zero day with four days warning. Oh. Drama. Fight, fight. Cat fight. Or something.</p>
<p>But, as everyone understands on a basic level: the eEye research team was on the right road, with the right intentions, sometimes having to make hard choices. Fact of life in the security business.</p>
<p>Morey is a sales guy. I am not sure where he is coming from on all of this, but he clearly is missing the full picture. In security, you have to consider all the angles. That is what we do.</p>
<p>Liberal, conservative, Democrat, Republican: Whatever. What matters is the bottom line. What is right, what is best&#8230; in often morally grey areas.</p>
<p>Nothing is perfect, nothing is ultimately good. And in security you deal with human lives or that which ultimately effects human lives. Sometimes dramatically. You have to choose between the lesser of two evils&#8230; because that is all there is. A reality people outside of the industry or peripheral to it can pretend does not exist.</p>
<p>Hate to burst their bubble of goodness there.</p>
<p>There do remain good people at eEye. And I am not making a moral judgment here on Morey. But, the research team is gone.</p>
<p>I worked there. You know what most employers say? What most companies say? &#8220;Who is eEye&#8221;. Or better, they mispronounce it. &#8220;I-I&#8221;. Uhm. (Thought, &#8220;and you have how much experience in this industry?&#8221;)</p>
<p>Such is life.</p>
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		<title>By: Marsh Ray</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 21:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The original:

&quot;Making these tools readily available is like encouraging people to play
with fireworks. Too bold of a statement? I think not. &quot;

What part of that was unclear?

I mean, if we dare to risk saying anything significant, eventually we say something dumb that we wish we could take back. I think everyone would understand a &quot;gee I must have been on crack when I wrote that&quot; type retraction.

Computer security needs some boldness. Taking away the original and substituting something all wishy-washy is now lame.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The original:</p>
<p>&#8220;Making these tools readily available is like encouraging people to play<br />
with fireworks. Too bold of a statement? I think not. &#8221;</p>
<p>What part of that was unclear?</p>
<p>I mean, if we dare to risk saying anything significant, eventually we say something dumb that we wish we could take back. I think everyone would understand a &#8220;gee I must have been on crack when I wrote that&#8221; type retraction.</p>
<p>Computer security needs some boldness. Taking away the original and substituting something all wishy-washy is now lame.</p>
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		<title>By: B.A. Barakus</title>
		<link>http://hellnbak.wordpress.com/2010/05/04/backpeddled-but-still-very-wrong/#comment-112</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[B.A. Barakus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 18:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow what in the hell is going on over there at eEye? The lights are on but no one&#039;s home.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow what in the hell is going on over there at eEye? The lights are on but no one&#8217;s home&#8230;..</p>
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